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« on: August 14, 2008, 11:29:05 pm »
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Anyone ever heard about this?Huh? some guy was talking about it this last weekend,.. i ignored him cuz i thought he was crazy.. but then someone else mentioned it..

any clue... know bus's with this set up???
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 11:53:58 pm »
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The most well know would be Mext Up..



My buddy Damon had / may still have a 21 window with the same set up.

When I did my first narrowed beam on the Slam-O-Matic people thought I did a T3 swap too.

Seems easy enough especially now with just about everyone having a water jet for making side plates
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2008, 09:44:22 am »
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nice to know i asnt hearing shit... more info on this would be great.. 8)
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2008, 10:12:33 pm »
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alrighty...

i just got a type 3 front end today (free) and i will be measuring to see what i need to do on this.... its disc and seems pretty narrow...

i will be doing some measurments here shortly and possibly making sideplates...

i might actually do this... the only problem i see is the steering... i might need to transfer the center pin to the type 3 front end...

keep your eyes peeled for updates..
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 11:25:16 pm »
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The most well know would be Mext Up..



My buddy Damon had / may still have a 21 window with the same set up.

When I did my first narrowed beam on the Slam-O-Matic people thought I did a T3 swap too.

Seems easy enough especially now with just about everyone having a water jet for making side plates

now i've seen this picture a few times, and please don't tell me that corrugated metal is not part of the bed or anything............
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2008, 01:52:08 am »
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Fold up section of the bed floor to expose the pumps, etc. of the hydraulic set up.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2008, 07:51:41 am »
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My buddy Damon had / may still have a 21 window with the same set up.


Its true, Deboe does has a 21 window slammed with a type 3 beam. He said last time it ran, It was the super smooth ride...
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 08:53:56 am »
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any pics of it from underneath?Huh?^^^^^^

i'm going to wing it... just would like to see what it looks like
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2008, 09:52:47 am »
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Hmm, I know it will work. But I don't think its such a good idea. A bus is considerably heavier(especialy a bay) Than a type 3. The Mext up truck had hydros...so it didn't ride on the springs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the guys who did the type 3 swaps, were doing them before we had narrowed bus beam technology. ;D
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2008, 09:55:46 am »
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Hmm, I know it will work. But I don't think its such a good idea. A bus is considerably heavier(especialy a bay) Than a type 3. The Mext up truck had hydros...so it didn't ride on the springs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the guys who did the type 3 swaps, were doing them before we had narrowed bus beam technology. ;D

your right... it was before the narrowed adjutable sceen...

but i still wanna do it...

my bay will only carry me and my dog... no interior... so it wont be too bad i dont think..
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2008, 08:26:20 pm »
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i wanna know more about how functional it is, i wouldn't mind pursuing this myself on my split.

how much narrower is a type 3 beam to a bus beam?
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2008, 08:30:47 pm »
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 Seems like alot of work whene you could just build a bus beam
I understand if the type 3 beam is free but you then need to cut it up and weld on sideplates, adjusters and center pin
 Then it  may be spungy because the spring rating is for a much light vehicle
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2008, 08:37:31 pm »
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Seems like alot of work whene you could just build a bus beam
I understand if the type 3 beam is free but you then need to cut it up and weld on sideplates, adjusters and center pin
 Then it  may be spungy because the spring rating is for a much light vehicle

you can't use adjusters on a type 3 beam, and if i'm going to make a bus beam from scratch i have to cut a centerpin off another beam as well. and if i'm not mistakin, the "mext up" type 3 beam other than the hydraulics is all stock but with bus sideplates fabricated onto the sides.

sounds like a fun project to me, i just wanna know just how functional it is though before i waste my time  ;)
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2008, 09:11:29 pm »
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Getting a hold of Pauly (Mext Up builder) probably won't happen any time soon, but Damon is easy enough to find at any sow. I'm sure he'd give you the run down.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2008, 09:33:42 pm »
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Seems like alot of work whene you could just build a bus beam
I understand if the type 3 beam is free but you then need to cut it up and weld on sideplates, adjusters and center pin
 Then it  may be spungy because the spring rating is for a much light vehicle

you can't use adjusters on a type 3 beam, and if i'm going to make a bus beam from scratch i have to cut a centerpin off another beam as well. and if i'm not mistakin, the "mext up" type 3 beam other than the hydraulics is all stock but with bus sideplates fabricated onto the sides.

sounds like a fun project to me, i just wanna know just how functional it is though before i waste my time  ;)

i looked at both beams and have yet to measure eather. but esentially it seems to work that way... seems easy... but we'll see
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2008, 11:17:27 am »
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so has anything came of this type 3 beam yet? i'm really considering trying this out but would like more info. i've been searching thesamba and steeringbox scrapers and kcw and everything and can't find shit about doing this.

crazyeyes, was wondering if you could get me the beam width measurement (end to end) then see how far the tubes or whatever they are spaced apart from center to center or something. if you can't, no problem, but if you can, your awesome.
        i know that if you have different tube spacing than a split bus, then theres gonna have to be something done about the center pin and steering sitting higher up, i'm wondering if the underside of the bus has enough room to clear these, or even if there has to be any modification to the steering at all other than weld the center pin to the type 3 beam.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2008, 11:34:44 am »
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You are spinning your wheels Russell.
Like it was stated earlier. People did the T3 beam swap because no one had thought of narrowing a Bus beam.

Don't waste your time / money.
Do what works and is an easy bolt in deal.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2008, 12:37:14 pm »
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You are spinning your wheels Russell.
Like it was stated earlier. People did the T3 beam swap because no one had thought of narrowing a Bus beam.

Don't waste your time / money.
Do what works and is an easy bolt in deal.

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get yourself an early beam, narrow it and bolt it in.
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2008, 08:00:34 am »
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You are spinning your wheels Russell.
Like it was stated earlier. People did the T3 beam swap because no one had thought of narrowing a Bus beam.

Don't waste your time / money.
Do what works and is an easy bolt in deal.

X2

get yourself an early beam, narrow it and bolt it in.

I would but i'm not... i havnt been in the garage with the bus for a few days been working on another project so i will try to get measurements soon... but i heard this was possible and i have already talked to the people i know that can cut the side plates... so for me this will be fairly easy... i have 2 Type 3 front ends to mess with and it looks like i will have a frame and another bus beam too... so i can mock all of it up before i even unbolt my beam from my bus... it might be a little bit before i get started on it though... i want to get all the parts to put it together before i start on anything...

I WILL be doing this and i will be posting up on how i did it too... just might be a few months thats all....
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2008, 10:22:24 am »
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Start a new thread with all the details / pics when you do get going on i. I'd like to see it done again.
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2008, 11:40:34 pm »
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Start a new thread with all the details / pics when you do get going on i. I'd like to see it done again.

i will... i'm going to make it my long hauler probably put longer trans gears in it and put a surf/snowboard rack on it... cant wait!!!
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2008, 10:06:15 am »
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I guess Im not understanding what would be the benefit in using a type 3 front end?

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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2008, 10:38:15 am »
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At this point, nothing.
Back in the early 90's when no one had thought of narrowing a bus beam it *was* the way to go.
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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2008, 11:10:01 pm »
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for me it benifits in many ways... it will get me lower and narrow for cheap with no spindles to buy.. i can build the front end of this thing almost for free!!!
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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2008, 11:45:51 pm »
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well... looks like i might not do this... the more i think about it and research it.. doesnt seem very smart and cost effective... i cn build a type 2 beam and leave the steering alone for the most part... or i could hack the hell out of a type 3 front end and have no clue how i want to do the steering... i'll just build a sick ass type 2 beam and get some spindles and call it a day!!!
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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2008, 01:57:25 am »
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well... looks like i might not do this... the more i think about it and research it.. doesnt seem very smart and cost effective... i cn build a type 2 beam and leave the steering alone for the most part... or i could hack the hell out of a type 3 front end and have no clue how i want to do the steering... i'll just build a sick ass type 2 beam and get some spindles and call it a day!!!

Good call.
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« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2010, 07:56:29 pm »
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type three beam also gives instant disc brakes. My truck rides like a caddy and the height adjustment is easy too. thumbs up
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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2010, 02:51:25 pm »
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Post up some pics.
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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2010, 10:16:54 pm »
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Post up some pics.

x2 and some specs...
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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2010, 10:10:09 pm »
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What kind of specs are you looking for? The install is not that hard once you get to doing it.
took me about a day to have it mocked up and in place.( that includes install of the pivot from a bay beam.)
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